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Old 06-11-11, 01:46 PM   #1
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Default Looking at attendance numbers

For some unknown reason I was looking at the average attendance numbers for various football/soccer teams, and comparing them to baseball and NFL teams.

Sticking with football/soccer, I was noticing the average attendance of the best-attended teams in the SPL, EPL, and MLS.

Taking these three together, we have at "top ten" of

1 Man U 75,495
2 Arsenal 59, 957
3 Celtic 48,968
4 Man City 46,953
5 Newcastle 46,871
7 Rangers 45,305
8 Liverpool 44,945
9 Chelsea 41,649
10 Seattle 38,486

The SPL drops off dramatically after the top two: third place Hearts averages 14,185 fans per match.

In the MLS, second place Galaxy (with the best record in the league two years running) averages 23,335.

In Baseball, three teams (Philadelphia, Yankees, and San Francisco) average over 40,000 fans per game. But due to the long season, six teams average more than three million fans at home games per season.

The worst-attended Baseball team, Oakland, gets 18,232 fans per match but 1.5 million fans per season, more than Manchester United's 1.4 million.

The NFL has some bigger stadiums but teams only play 8 home matches per season. Top attendance is Dallas (83,075 per match) while 11 teams average more than 70,000 fans per match. (Only Manchester United in football is in that rarified air.)

Much larger than any of the above is College Football (Gridiron) in the US.

Five colleges average over 100,000 fans per match, four at 90,000+, five with 80,000+.
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100,000 for a college game ?? what do they just drive round and pick up anyone walking by..press-gang like.
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No, these fans struggle to get tickets, as these College matches are always sell-outs.

Going to a College Football (gridiron) match is an all-day event, the match itself preceeded by hours of "tailgating" (partying in the car park at the stadium).

It seems that few people outwith the USA realise how big College
football/gridiron is here. Professional gridiron was a rather minor sport (far behind baseball and college gridiron) and only began overtaking baseball in the 1960s.

Some would still argue, and have numbers to support them, that College gridiron is still more popular than the NFL in this country.

Certainly College gridiron has far more teams, more bigger stadiums, and hence far more attendance.

BTW in the USA, High School gridiron is also hugely popular in places, especially Texas. High School matches are Friday night, College matches Saturday, professional (NFL) matches on Sunday.
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Growing up, I lived about 30 miles from the Univ. of Tennessee. You could get away with missing going to church, but God help you if you missed going to a home game or missed watching it on TV. Yep, football (gridiron) can be more of a religion than regular religion is.

When I was a kid, the stadium expanded several times growing from a seating capacity of around 50,000 to around 90,000. Now it's well over 100,000. And by the way, it can be REALLY LOUD in the stadium.
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The phenomenon of college/high school football in America has always fascinated me. Some of those rivalries are fierce! I like it.
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College Football is this about the Football where the ball is egg shaped ??
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Perhaps the greater number of fans could be explained better by taking the percentage of the population?

The US has a population roughly 5 times that of the UK...
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Following up with the numeracy, we can conclude that:

Approx - 2.26% of the UK support Man U.
Approx - 0.96% of the US support teams like the Yankees.
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...but 96% of Americans have an opinion about the Yankees.
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...but 96% of Americans have an opinion about the Yankees.
Think at least 96% of the english have an opinion about ManU too
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Perhaps the greater number of fans could be explained better by taking the percentage of the population?

The US has a population roughly 5 times that of the UK...
...............Double post automerged..............
Following up with the numeracy, we can conclude that:

Approx - 2.26% of the UK support Man U.
Approx - 0.96% of the US support teams like the Yankees.
Do you mean stadium attendance? There are several ways support can be gauged: television ratings, merchandise sales, or even in a phone poll in which the respondents are asked "which team do you support? You can define 'support' in any way you choose."

I was looking for statistics on worldwide merchandise sales and I couldn't find any hard numbers. I would think that the top English, Spanish, and Italian football (soccer) teams would BY FAR have more worldwide merchandise sales than any USA team in any sport, and the vast majority of these sales would be shirts. (For USA sports the leading sales are probably caps.)

Seems like anywhere in the world you go there's somebody wearing a Manchester United shirt, and a Yankees cap!

Here within the USA one sees people wearing far more College merchandise than professional merchandise from any league, easily more merchandise than all our professional leagues put together, at least from my own 'eyeball test', and I see tens of thousands of 'the general public' every day.

I believe I read that the English Premiership has by far the biggest worldwide television ratings of any league in any sport.
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