Let's help this guy folks !!!

**Paul Ouellette** · 20-12-07, 03:52 AM

Group :

Here's a piper in "great need" of our guidance !!!

I hope my own comments were not too harsh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2O0fK_DOIw&sdig=1

Does anyone know who this fellow is ??

Potential for sure, but he must be watching too many Celtic rock vids !!

**Reid** · 20-12-07, 06:09 AM

"OK, first of all...stop jumping around like you've gotta take a p*ss..."

**Robbie.Crow** · 20-12-07, 07:40 AM

did he actually ask for help? or are you just giving him it?

**KAILY** · 20-12-07, 08:14 AM

The lad certainly has rythm in his soul, which is a good thing, he also has ability, but maybe just a "wee bit out of control at times"

Kaily

**janelleTG** · 20-12-07, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ouellette

Group :

Here's a piper in "great need" of our guidance !!!

I hope my own comments were not too harsh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2O0fK_DOIw&sdig=1

Does anyone know who this fellow is ??

Potential for sure, but he must be watching too many Celtic rock vids !!

Harsh...nah, cause not.

Maybe if you'd given the positives before you went for the jugular.

I'm not in a position to comment on his playing, I will say however that he has passion.

**AlistairFyfe** · 20-12-07, 10:12 AM

From the extract below it seems that the guy plays his pipes in a 'group' rather than the formal band or competition setting that most of us come from. So in my opinion not bad just different.

“Doing something like this in New Bedford is a real treat,” he said. Mr. Silva, who lives in the city and grew up in Taunton, plays with the Boston Kiltics, a Cape Breton-style group that includes a fiddler, guitarist and two stepdancers.

Extracted from http://www.bagpipenews.com/?N=D&paged=3

**Paul Ouellette** · 20-12-07, 03:31 PM

Hi janelleTG :

Well...I'm not usually a "ready, fire, aim"...sort of fellow, however, after I posted in the YouTube comments section, I thought I'd also bring this vid to the attention of the group, as I suspect that not only the chap in the video (but others too) can fal victim to the temptation of turning a GHP into something a'kin to an air guitar

What struck me as different (sad really) about that chap is that if he'd only stop doing the "can't find the urinal arobics" & slow down the tempo a bit...with a bit of coaching...I'll bet he could be a great asset in just about any upper level band he may decide to join.

I recall some years back, Bill Livingstone telling a few of us about a judge in Scotland that kept a little book for his own reference as he would adjudicate for grade 4, & as there were often so many entries, it was helpful for him to refer back to his past comments...which were for his eyes only...& many people knew he kept the book for this purpose.

Apparently, on one occasion a heavy rain broke out & everyone at the games quickly ran for cover. A chap who had a wee son competing at the time, found the book as the judge had dropped it as he had run to get out of the downpour.

The fellow could simply not resist looking in the book to see what the judge had written as "private comments" regarding his son.

Apparently, the notes under his son's name read (something like...) "Stop...Just Stop...Please Stop...In the name of God Please Stop"

Like the fellow in the video...the differnce between playing badly & playing like Gord Duncan is "lessons" with experienced teachers.

If we don't say something...perhaps nobody else will either.

Is it any wonder given a situation where "them that know, stay silent" that the bagpipe is as poorly played by the majority of people that attempt it ?

When the public hears a "poorly played piano"...they can recognize it as such...but when they hear a poorly played bagpipe...they just figure, "well, that's just what they sound like" !!

The only difference is that good piano playing (through reasonable teaching) has become widespread.

Should we not strive to do the same ??

PowerBoozer007 · 20-12-07, 05:56 PM

I notice he's playing at a band setup, that answers a lot of questions!

No he's not playing tradition Scottish style, but that doesn't make it wrong either! He's young and will develop over time,coudl be the next Eric Rigler.

This guy really impresses me, not for his technique but his ambition:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3n9hbYwZZqk&NR=1

**boltonbagpiper** · 20-12-07, 09:24 PM

is it "clumsy lover" that guys playing? and has anyone got any dots for it???

**Robbie.Crow** · 20-12-07, 10:46 PM

can i just ask again, has this guy asked for comments? or have people just barged right in and gave them to him?

20-12-07, 03:52 AM	#1
Paul Ouellette PBF Piping Advisor Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Windsor Ontario Posts: 839 Casino cash: $10894 Country: Thanks: 42 Thanked 492 Times in 249 Posts	Let's help this guy folks !!! Group : Here's a piper in "great need" of our guidance !!! I hope my own comments were not too harsh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2O0fK_DOIw&sdig=1 Does anyone know who this fellow is ?? Potential for sure, but he must be watching too many Celtic rock vids !!

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Robbie.Crow Wobbly™ Jedi Master Yoda Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Scotland Age: 21 Posts: 12,155 Casino cash: $20779 Country: Thanks: 906 Thanked 2,275 Times in 1,351 Posts	did he actually ask for help? or are you just giving him it?

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Paul Ouellette PBF Piping Advisor Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Windsor Ontario Posts: 839 Casino cash: $10894 Country: Thanks: 42 Thanked 492 Times in 249 Posts	Hi janelleTG : Well...I'm not usually a "ready, fire, aim"...sort of fellow, however, after I posted in the YouTube comments section, I thought I'd also bring this vid to the attention of the group, as I suspect that not only the chap in the video (but others too) can fal victim to the temptation of turning a GHP into something a'kin to an air guitar What struck me as different (sad really) about that chap is that if he'd only stop doing the "can't find the urinal arobics" & slow down the tempo a bit...with a bit of coaching...I'll bet he could be a great asset in just about any upper level band he may decide to join. I recall some years back, Bill Livingstone telling a few of us about a judge in Scotland that kept a little book for his own reference as he would adjudicate for grade 4, & as there were often so many entries, it was helpful for him to refer back to his past comments...which were for his eyes only...& many people knew he kept the book for this purpose. Apparently, on one occasion a heavy rain broke out & everyone at the games quickly ran for cover. A chap who had a wee son competing at the time, found the book as the judge had dropped it as he had run to get out of the downpour. The fellow could simply not resist looking in the book to see what the judge had written as "private comments" regarding his son. Apparently, the notes under his son's name read (something like...) "Stop...Just Stop...Please Stop...In the name of God Please Stop" Like the fellow in the video...the differnce between playing badly & playing like Gord Duncan is "lessons" with experienced teachers. If we don't say something...perhaps nobody else will either. Is it any wonder given a situation where "them that know, stay silent" that the bagpipe is as poorly played by the majority of people that attempt it ? When the public hears a "poorly played piano"...they can recognize it as such...but when they hear a poorly played bagpipe...they just figure, "well, that's just what they sound like" !! The only difference is that good piano playing (through reasonable teaching) has become widespread. Should we not strive to do the same ??

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PowerBoozer007 PowerBoozer007 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Modesto California, previous Toronto Posts: 0 Casino cash: $10 Country: Thanks: 529 Thanked 979 Times in 649 Posts	I notice he's playing at a band setup, that answers a lot of questions! No he's not playing tradition Scottish style, but that doesn't make it wrong either! He's young and will develop over time,coudl be the next Eric Rigler. This guy really impresses me, not for his technique but his ambition: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3n9hbYwZZqk&NR=1

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boltonbagpiper Super V.I.P. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: BOLTON OF COURSE Posts: 102 Casino cash: $311 Country: Thanks: 11 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	is it "clumsy lover" that guys playing? and has anyone got any dots for it???

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Robbie.Crow Wobbly™ Jedi Master Yoda Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Central Scotland Age: 21 Posts: 12,155 Casino cash: $20779 Country: Thanks: 906 Thanked 2,275 Times in 1,351 Posts	can i just ask again, has this guy asked for comments? or have people just barged right in and gave them to him?

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