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Old 22-01-08, 01:46 AM   #1
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Post Water Traps & Chanter Reeds

I hope I can find an answer here as no one on the other forum wanted to reply. I play a Bannatyne hide/synthetic pipe bag with a tube water trap into the bottle with the sponge. The only problem is that the chanter reed is getting no moisture and dries out while playing and actually gets harder to play. Would a different trap allow a little moisture to get to the reed or should I consider switching to a different pipe bag, Gannaway or Scotian? Or should I just take out the bottle and sponge? Would the ROss allow moisture to the chanter reed and fit the Bannatyne bag? Has anyone else come across this problem and how did you you solve it? THanks
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Old 22-01-08, 01:59 AM   #2
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You might be a dry blower and don't need the watertrap!

Try it without the sponge first!

You can use a a Ross system in any bag with a zipper!
That will isolate the drones and keep them dry while allowing the chanter reed to get the moisture it needs.
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My Gannaway MCS has a hose that comes off before the sponge and canister. It has a valve that I can regulate how much "moist" air goes to the chanter reed. In the humid summer, I cut it back, now that most of my playing is in heated areas, I have it opened up so moisture gets to the reed. If I recall correctly, the Ross system has a similar valve and hose.

I agree with PB007, try removing the sponge first to see it that works before going out and spending a lot of money on new bags, or Ross guts.
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You might be a dry blower and don't need the watertrap!

Try it without the sponge first!
I agree, I use the same bag and sponge tube and that is all. Try it with out the sponge and bottle. I have never had any problem with my reed drying out. Or getting too wet for that matter.
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Determine if the reed is actually drying out or not. The reed becoming harder to blow can be caused by either condition (cane gets moist....swells up...gets harder to blow)

The canister system can be used in any bag with a zipper. You should be aware however that Bannatyne will void your warranty if you do use the canister system. Having said that, it's been used successfully by numerous people over the years.

If your reed is truly drying out as you play, then you really don't need any moisture control for your chanter. The MCS2 system or drones by PM Bruce Hitchings is an excellent moisture control system and is recommended by Bannatyne.
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Check the reed for any chipped corners or might have a split in it!
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"The canister system can be used in any bag with a zipper. You should be aware however that Bannatyne will void your warranty if you do use the canister system. Having said that, it's been used successfully by numerous people over the years."

The reason for voiding the warranty is that some drying systems have sharp edges and can damage the internal lining of the synthetic fabric and then damage the special membrane that makes the bag breathable yet air tight. I had considered adding this clause to our warranty but felt that most pipers are very careful with their pipes and it would not be needed.


As for the dry reed I suggest that you drill a 3 to 4 mm hole in the water trap pipe on the bend where it is attached to the blow pipe stock. Drill the hole facing forward to the chanter reed. Moist air from your blowing will as a rule go forward to the chanter. The variable here is to determine how wet a blower you are as the amount of wet air can be controled with tape cutting off the hole just like putting tape on you chanter for tuning. A lot of tape over the hole = less moisture and no tape over the hole = a lot of moisture, Trial and error----it works well. This way the drones stay dryer with the bottle and sponge. This has worked well for me.
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